We had the room setup as usual.
Liz did the opening prayer at 7.35pm and included the question...
'My question concerns the state of being that we find ourselves in after we die, after we leave the physical body. And I would like to know whether we have the opportunity to return to the larger consciousness, to the soul, to the large consciousness unit of which we are a part or a fragment, a more undifferentiated consciousness, or whether we have the opportunity to choose to remain in this smaller unit of consciousness that inhabited our physical body while we were in the physical reality but while we're in the non-physical reality after death, whether we can choose to remain in that smaller personality body and to continue to choose to develop and have experiences in that body, in that vehicle and if so for how long can we do that? Can we do that for longer than a year, a hundred years, a thousand years if we choose? Can we hold onto that identity, that fragment if we choose to? That's what I would like to know. And if we choose to whether we can let go of it and return to the group, more undifferentiated group consciousness of which we are always a part, to which we belong, or whether we can go backwards and forwards, choose to pick up and put down that smaller personality, to use as a growth vehicle or whether once we have decided to rejoin the group soul it stops being a vehicle for growth, that personality... I hope the question is clear'
Liz the turned out the light and put the music on...
Liz sensed a presence, she felt very emotional.
At times she noticed a strong smell which she thought smelt of ectoplasm.
I was drifting in and out of sleep for about an hour then I was controlled and Liz turned down the music...
'Good evening, good evening...'
Liz... 'Good evening friend, welcome to you'
'Once again we come through into your room and speak with you and discuss the subjects of your choice for once again you have given us a question and we will do our best to give you a simple answer that will satisfy your curiosity and give you something with which you can think about, with which you can develop your mind, with which you can help yourself to grow. There is much to understand when considering the states of consciousness beyond your physical life. once you have withdrawn from the physical world, your physical world. As you now exist you have much that is operating in other levels. You yourself have your own waking consciousness as you live your life yet you are also a part of us, you are also engaged in other duties. You are consciousness, you are the larger consciousness and you are an individual consciousness. Your consciousness is with us yet your comprehension of life appears to be in the physical world. You have been drawn into your world, you have been partitioned off from your real self. When you die, when the physical world loses its grip you will feel little change for there is little change. You remain as you are, you remain as the character that guided you through physical life but you lose the physical part of yourself that you have created for yourself, that has been journeying with you through physical life, that part no longer exists in your mind, you have no memory of physical existence as you understand memory, yet that physical existence is still a part of you, it has been put aside, it has been put into history, your history, yet you continue to move forward. Your history is still available for you to explore if that is your wish, yet you will find that once released from the physical world you will want to move on'
Liz... 'Supposing some people don't want to move on, that they want to stay for a little bit with the familiar and they don't want to lose contact with those that they've loved, they want to hang around a bit longer in a new virtual reality but still with contact with all those that they've loved and still with a sense of some attachment, some memory'
'From where you are now you will find it difficult to understand how easy it is to lose that physical memory. You are impressing the physical world on your own consciousness, whereas the consciousness is what experiences a physical world. You are seeing things from your perspective of a physical life, in a physical life and in a physical life you have friends, relatives, colleagues, physical beings, yet these beings are consciousness, they are a part of the greater consciousness and they are an individual'
Liz... 'And don't they go on as such after they die if they choose to for a while, but with a subtler body, not a physical body but a body that is fit for the new non-physical reality in which they find themselves?'
'They will find themselves in a new reality but that reality will for them be physical. All realities are physical when they are being experienced by consciousness'
Liz... 'I guess if our reality is a virtual reality so is the non-physical reality a virtual reality. All realities are virtual realities and all beings are virtual beings so does it stand to reason that a virtual being that is over here, when it dies and casts off that virtual body can find itself in another virtual reality with a virtual body suited to that but can still choose to create that reality, to manipulate it so it's close to what they've left behind, so that it's familiar. And perhaps there are others that they've known who are also doing the same and so they might cluster together to share a shared reality because there's still love between them, still a sense of kinship and they all still want to hold onto the familiar, maybe not yet ready to explore new constructs, new scenarios'
'You all have that choice, there is nothing stopping you from creating and exploring whatever you wish. You will be presented with greater opportunities, opportunities which are out of your reach at this point in time. You will see the benefit of those opportunities for your growth. You will understand the importance of playing a part in whatever reality is suited to you. As you are now you feel yourself attached to other entities. When you lose that grip of the physical world you will better understand how you are a part of all of those entities, how you are connected, how you are connected to the larger consciousness'
Liz... 'Supposing you don't understand straight away how you're connected to the larger consciousness? Presumably that understanding comes slowly, some people if they've already thought a lot about it while they were in the physical body may find it easier and be drawn and to extend that understanding but many people don't think about it at all'
'Those people who have not given the bigger picture any thought throughout a physical life they will indeed find themselves in a reality very similar to that what they have left. They will see entities that they recognise, that have gone before them, they will believe that these are the entities that have gone before them'
Liz... 'Presumably they will be those entities if those entities also had little understanding of the larger reality and wanted to create a facsimile of the reality that they've left, presumably they too are still in that state if they haven't reached out to the larger reality yet and been reabsorbed by it, presumably they will still be in that in-between state. What I'm trying to say is it seems plausible to me that many people will continue to be those people in a reality created similar to this reality for some considerable time, some less and some more until they're ready to move on to a larger reality, but they will still populate and create that reality and they will grow slowly, but until they actually relinquish completely that connection to that familiar reality they will still in fact be there'
'Each individual will build around themselves a reality suited to them, they will indeed meet with those who they love but they will also... they will grow tired of living an extended physical life, they will begin to wander what else is there for them to do. They will realise that they have died and they will want to explore, they will want to sample a life greater than the life they have led, they will want to... they will get a feeling that they are missing out. They will in their own way cause themselves to think about the future, they will be shown, there are many who will join each entity that leaves the physical world and offer their help, there are those who work in the realities that many find themselves in after leaving the physical world. These are all loving individuals, guiding individuals, and slowly they will present opportunities. Those who have died will be shown what they have achieved in their physical life and what they have not achieved'
Liz... 'And will they while in this state have the opportunity to put those things right, to work on those things that they want to work on?'
'They will be shown how they can put those things right and the way that they can put those things right will be to once again connect to the physical world, come back to the physical world, have a new life in the physical world'
Liz... 'But while they're in the non-physical world, while they're in that state, presumably they have an opportunity to develop further, to actually grow more, to think about what they have achieved and what they've missed out on, mistakes that they've made, to think about their life'
'They have all the time they wish to look back at what they have done and see the mistakes they have made, recognise them as mistakes'
Liz... 'And can they then have lessons as it were, carry on learning and developing until they're ready to come back and work on things more in that state, can they continue to make choices and to grow while they're in that'
'The ability to make choices and grow is only available whilst in a reality'
Liz... 'But after death, that is also a reality'
'A reality created for the transition, a reality created for the confused minds that have left your world, a reality that gives those minds a structure that they can recognise, that they will find familiar, that they will find welcoming. A reality that will guide them towards their own understanding of themselves and when they understand themselves they will begin to want to give themselves a new challenge, they will want to work on their weaknesses and they will be given the opportunity to work on those weaknesses in a new life'
Liz... 'How long can this go on for in physical reality terms?'
'There are no limits to the time taken'
Liz... 'Could it be that some people would be there for the equivalent of hundreds of years'
'That is possible... Consciousness is an evolving system, it needs to constantly evolve to remain alive, constantly growing and this is felt by all. Each individual consciousness feels this need to evolve and grow'
Liz... 'Presumably then if these people are still evolving in the after-death state, still taking opportunities to grow, that continued growth and experience will be recorded, will be remembered somewhere, just as the Earth life, the physical life is stored in what some people call Akashic records, a data base of that life, that physical life that was led. Presumably in that in-between state, the after-death state where some people may carry on growing and developing for hundreds of years, presumably that in-between state is recorded in some sort of super consciousness memory in consciousness somewhere, all the experiences that they have in that state'
'All experience is indeed recorded'
Liz... 'Ah ha, does that mean that when and if they decide to reincarnate, to take on a new physical form, it might be possible to access the memory of that in-between state of what they were doing, the choices they made, the plans they made, the growth they achieved, the understanding they achieved in that in-between state. Could some of that be accessed?'
'All experiences can be accessed if they are beneficial, if they help that consciousness, that individual consciousness to realise what it needs to do, what it needs to grow within itself. There are many fears that need to be addressed and these are best shown when looking back at the actions and choices made during a physical incarnation. A new incarnation can be planned, and it can be planned in such a way that the fears that remain will be worked on. Situations will be brought about where those fears will have to be addressed. One by one the fears will begin to fade, will begin to lose their strength as physical life after physical life is lived. If these fears remain then guidance will be given in the non-physical world as to how better to address those fears. Maybe an incarnation in a female form will help, maybe an incarnation in a male form will help and there are infinite possibilities as to where that physical life is lived and what situations will present themselves throughout that life. You look at people in your world and you can see the pain and sorrow that exists in particular groups of entities throughout your world yet they are learning, they are learning about love. They may well have chosen to immerse themselves into that situation to address a fear that has not been dissolved from their consciousness. The non-physical world is a place of reflection, a place to think and a place where you can be guided in your own thoughts. You can see yourself, you can understand yourself without the distraction of a physical reality. You can see and understand the real you, you can understand where you have reached, you can understand the qualities of your own consciousness and you can understand how those qualities can be improved. You have full access to all of your history and you will be shown your weaknesses in all of your lives. You will see how you have repeated life after life the same weakness and you will want to live a new life to get rid of that weakness, to strengthen that weakness, to develop your consciousness, develop the quality of your consciousness. This can only be achieved in a physical reality. Try not to attach your thoughts to entities within a physical world, try to understand the consciousness that plays those entities for you have that love that connects you to other entities but it is the consciousness that you love. You are consciousness, they are consciousness and together you are one but you choose to live separate lives in this grand illusion called physical life, a temporary grand illusion yet all the time your consciousness is connected with all who you love on a different level, a level you cannot truly understand whilst immersed in physical life but understand that you will understand this. It is the simplest understanding of all for it is what you are and you can be nothing else yet you can be so much more. Thank you, my dear friend, we have reached the end of our session this evening, we will draw back, we will leave you with those words to think about and you will find as always that your question will produce more questions in your mind. Keep asking questions, do not expect an answer for you create for yourself your own answer. Please take from us a piece of our love, take it out into your world spread it amongst all who you meet, lighten up your world, your wonderful world full of opportunities and enjoy your life. May God bless and keep you all, goodnight to you, thank you'
Liz... 'Goodnight friend and thank you'
AUDIO CLIP
I came back in about one minute.
Liz did the closing prayer, sent out healing and did our closing down exercise...